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Kar
Posted on: 2012/4/13 15:40

Joined: 2012/3/15
From: Sokrovenno
Posts: 67
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
Did you check the PTRD anti-tank rifle 3rd person model? I could have sworn it was off when we played Last Stand yesterday. (Correct me if I'm wrong)


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E-Hero
Posted on: 2012/4/13 15:48

Joined: 2012/3/7
From: Northern Wastelands of Canada
Posts: 258
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
My opinion is that the PTRD can just be removed outright. It devours weight, stupidly slow to reload, hard to use; and oh yeah 100$ a shot---no thank you. It doesn't feel that powerful either.

Hearing about the fire soldier nerf makes me happy. I don't like being on this end of a "like a hot knife through butter" analogy


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Kar
Posted on: 2012/4/13 16:03

Joined: 2012/3/15
From: Sokrovenno
Posts: 67
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
Don't you have a party to go to Rival? >.>


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E-Hero
Posted on: 2012/4/13 16:42

Joined: 2012/3/7
From: Northern Wastelands of Canada
Posts: 258
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
I leave in 20 minutes to go on a cross-state journey. excitement awaits!


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CarmeTaika
Posted on: 2012/4/13 20:08

Joined: 2011/11/9
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Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
Sounds good.
CarmeTaika
Posted on: 2012/4/15 10:44

Joined: 2011/11/9
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Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
I've got a concern about the rate of leveling up perks in this mod.
It takes a while, that's perfectly fair.
My concern is that the requirement difference to gain a level goes up and down wildly between individual levels. This needs to be balanced out so that it is totally linear.

If you gave me the numbers you're using now, I could think up a better rate of gain to work with.
..Which is where 1 damage per level, then level 30 is like 35m damage; best solution ever. (Kidding, ofc.)


On the topic of guns in this mod, I don't have a complete listing here but...
The MP40 and MP41 stat-wise are the same gun. They also share ammo pool so you can't use both [in a practical sense] anyways.
One looks prettier too; that is the MP41, not the MP40 you MP40 fetishists love so much.
The reality is, the MP41 is a later model of the same gun.

That issue aside, having a G41 and a G43, I wasn't paying attention but there might also be a G42 in there; is redundant and useless. the G41 can't force reload and reloads slower, they both penetrate and they have melee alternate fire, the G41 also has a crappier sight in-game.

Solution: Remove G41 Rifle.

I'll be back here again with some more of my findings, because I'll be doing more experimenting.
CarmeTaika
Posted on: 2012/4/15 12:52

Joined: 2011/11/9
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Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
I'm going to go into a little detail about the SMGs available to the "Rifle Man" perk now.

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For starters, there are currently seven SMGs.
Two German, Three American, a British and a Russian.

MP41, MP40, Thompson 1928A1, Thompson M1A4, Grease Gun, PPSH-41, Sten Mk.II

The purposes of this review is to eliminate three of these.
Proposed for removal:
MP40, Grease Gun and Thompson M1A4.

Reason 1: This will leave behind a German, Russian, British and American SMG to play with.

Reason 2: The redundant ones are obnoxious or inferior in some way.

First, let's look at the problem with having Three American SMGs:
Cluttered weapon selection in the shop, no strategic advantages to choosing different ones.

Now, let's look at the comparison of the Thompson M1A4 and the Thompson 1928A1 and see why the M1A4 is selected out:

M1A4:
Harsh recoil.
Low Magazine size.
Smaller ammo pool.
Unsure of damage per bullet rate.
Select-Fire Mode for alternate fire button.
Weighs 5kg.
More expensive bullets. (~1$/2 bullets)

1928A1 "Tommy Gun":
Has low-ish recoil.
A Drum-Magazine provides ample ammunition per reload.
Can stock Around 600 Bullets total.
Similar damage to the Sten Mk.II; which is very effective.
Select-Fire Mode for alternate fire button.
Weighs 5kg.
Less expensive bullets. (~1$/4 bullets)


That settled let's move on to the Grease Gun:
The Grease Gun isn't as popular as the Thompson in WWII themed Shooters.
It is functionally identical to the MP40 and MP41, which in the case of this game is just redundant and adds nothing.

MP40, MP41 and Grease Gun all have little/no recoil.
All Melee on alt-fire.
MP40 and 41 share ammo pool if you own both, also it's superior to the Grease Gun.
Grease Gun at the same level perk has a smaller magazine size than MP40/41.
All three weigh 4kg, despite the Shop claiming them to weigh 5kg.

The MachinenPistole series is more appealing than the Grease Gun, so two of these are selected out to avoid redundancy.

The MP41 is favored over the MP40 because it's got a beautiful wooden rifle stock to it, very appropriate for meleeing people with a butt-smash.

The MP41, PPSH-41, "Tommy Gun" and Sten Mk.II should be kept as they don't function identically and lends a model to each of the four major competitors in the war.
Hemi
Posted on: 2012/4/15 12:55

Joined: 2010/2/4
From: The Netherlands
Posts: 5133
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
greasegun adds nothing??? Its my fav gun! haha

Perks have been nerfed to max level 20 and scale 0,5 faster then normal instead of 0.15 (which was to fast)


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CarmeTaika
Posted on: 2012/4/15 13:15

Joined: 2011/11/9
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Posts: 57
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
You clearly can set the whole perk thing's actual stats affected and the rate of leveling up by hand, so you know exactly what level takes what and provides what.

I need the document of the present patch's information regarding that to give feedback, because from a limited standpoint on the matter right now:

The changes are far too harsh, it's utter crap, change it back.
...If I had access to the whole perk list, levels etc.
I could give you an intelligent opinion on how to tweak it.
Hemi
Posted on: 2012/4/15 14:24

Joined: 2010/2/4
From: The Netherlands
Posts: 5133
Re: WolfenStein Server :: Whats it got?
too bad you dont like it.

see you on the floors! :D

EDIT :

this :
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